are you in 'the truth', or are you only in 'the current understanding'?.
how long will it be before many of the current teachings peculiar to the organization are rejected as old light and relegated to watchtower's dust bin of old light, out-of-print literature to be expunged from future issues of watchtower library cd-rom?.
Are you in 'The Truth', or are you only in 'The Current Understanding'?
How long will it be before many of the current teachings peculiar to the organization are rejected as old light and relegated to Watchtower's dust bin of old light, out-of-print literature to be expunged from future issues of Watchtower Library CD-ROM?
omg i am so distressed.
i have a talk coming up on tuesday, it is the number 3 "abiram.
why opposing god appointed authority is tantamount to opposing god himself"!.
BU2B, your talk is great from the standpoint of sharing TTATT. But I'm afraid that it might raise suspicions. Why? Because it strays a little too much from the theme. The theme given is about not opposing God appionted authority. But your talk reads like you're going out of your way to make a point about not blindly following anyorganization. I'm afraid that may likely raise some suspicion about your motives among the elders.
My advice to you would be to not focus as much on the point about blindly following others without proof. Focus on the theme of the talk but find a way to mention that Abiram failed to consider the clear evidence of God's appointment of Moses. In other words, you can still make your point about not following blindly and the need for clear evidence. But just mention it secondarily without focusing on it. Focusing on it too much may draw suspicion from the elders.
But it depends on how you're perceived and want to be perceived by the elders. If you don't mind the elders knowing you have doubts and you want a way to share TTATT without them having solid grounds to accuse you, then I would definitely go with your revised talk.
omg i am so distressed.
i have a talk coming up on tuesday, it is the number 3 "abiram.
why opposing god appointed authority is tantamount to opposing god himself"!.
BU2B, you've got mail!
this is an offshoot from the jws then and now thread...it made me wonder what exactly people find attractive about the cult today?
why are they joining?
any thoughts?.
Most JW converts are not very knowledgeable of the bible and come from churches where the bible is not used much to back up the teachings. As a result, they tend to be impressed with, and easily deceived by, JWs at door using (really misusing) the bible to support their teachings. Their lack of understanding of the bible makes it easy for JWs to misuse the bible to ensnare them.
You do not find many JW converts from churches that study the bible deeply. They tend to come from churches that do very little actual bible study and which teach a lot of error. This also explains why most JWs believe the Watchtower's claims that all the other churches are deep in error and don't have anything near to the kind of deep bible study and spiritual food that the JWs have. Most JWs, being converts from shallow churches, can personally identify with Watchtower's sweeping blanket statements and there are very few if any JWs from deep study churches to spot the error in such blanket claims.
look for it in the yearbook next year.
there was an assembly the day of the big mudslide in washington last saturday.
a sister's life was saved because she obediently attended the assembly and thus was not home when a huge mudslide hit her neighborhood and buried and killed lots of people.
I bet a lot more lives were saved because of people who were away from their home enjoying 'worldly' pleasures.
i just learned this information the past couple of days but it seems it's been out the past couple of years.
many many articles about some asteroid/meteor event about 13,000 years ago.
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-03/space-rock-impact-could-have-caused-ancient-cooldown-new-evidence-says.
There was a great Tsunami in the Mediterranan region 8 thousand years ago. That could have been the event that sparked the flood myths.
10 hours ago, " another malicious propaganda against jehova's witnesse!!".
"he is not a jehova's witness!!
!thois a big lie against jehova's witnesses!
They know it's real. They're just lying as a form of damage control.
i thought this was worth sharing.. .
where did the interpretation of gen 49:27 come from ?.
tms review question 4. .
TheOldHippie: But so what? Where does it say that each and every verse of the Bible has to be given a completely new interpretation or comment? Why does it have to wrong to say what a verse says, just because it has been said earlier? So Gill said something, and Henry said something - does that mean that you have to say something completely different?
The point is they claim that they're the exclusive channel that Jehovah is using to dispense truth and apart from their organization no one can understand the bible. If this is true, how is it that they themselves are feeding off the insight of others in christendom? Is Jehovah really using them, or is he using the scholars in christendom that they get their ideas from? So the fact that they depend on worldly and christedom source exposed their claims of exclusive divine insight as being the pretentious claims of a charlatan. That's what!
where do they come up with this stuff?.
this is a topic on 'the other site'.
i actually called our bethel ny branch and talked to a brother on the writing committee, at writing correspondence.
Pretty soon it's going to have to come back to something like this:
"New light: After careful and prayerful consideration of the scriptures, it has become evident that an adjustment is needed in our understanding of Jesus' words pertaining to the conclusion of the system of things. Jesus predicted great tribulation of unprecedented proportions. (Matthew 24:21) Historians have noted that the year 1914 was a pivotal one in world history, ushering in an age of unprecedented woe. Notably, at 2 Timothy 3:1, the apostle Paul referred to the time of the last days, which began in 1914, as being "critical times hard to deal with". The fact that the last days are characterized as being critical and hard to deal with certainly alludes to it being of an unprecedented nature. Does this not harmonize with Jesus' description of the great tribulation being of an unprecedented nature? Mankind is definitely at a critical juncture in its history. Never before has the survival of earth's population been in danger from such cataclysmic dangers as nuclear weapons and climate change. Unless the present system of things is cut short no flesh would survive. (compare Matthew 24:22) We therefore understand that 1914 saw the start of Jesus' foretold great tribulation. The great tribulation is, in fact, the critical times hard to deal with that characterizes the last days of this dying system. [yadda yadda yadda]"
where do they come up with this stuff?.
this is a topic on 'the other site'.
i actually called our bethel ny branch and talked to a brother on the writing committee, at writing correspondence.
" I tell ya, those brothers are DEEEEEEP!!!!!, on the Writing Committee!"
Oh I bet they are! The question is 'deep in what?' I think they're deep in twisted, delusional, self-deceptive BS!
